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Two days before New York Mayor-Elect Bill de Blasio was to be sworn into office he vowed to eliminate the horse carriages that have for so long played a romantic role in Central Park.

“It’s over,” he said. “We are going to quickly and aggressively move to make horse carriages no longer a part of the landscape in New York City. They are not humane. They are not appropriate to the year 2014.”

While de Blasio’s announcement has elicited opposition, it appears that he comes to power with sufficient votes in the City Council to eliminate the sound of horse’s hooves from the streets of New York for all time.

“De Blasio has handed animal rights activists a major victory. Harry Bruinius, staff writer for the Christian Science Monitor writes, “Liberals have swept into office across the city, and now PETA is in, and top hats—which many hansom cab riders wear—are out.”

Click for more details in the CSM report.

Posted January 4, 2014


# Meaghan M 2014-01-07 08:14
This is such a shame! All those people and horses who will now lose their jobs. This makes me really angry.
+1 # Ellen Jefferies 2014-01-07 12:01
For someone who is a liberal politically, or (dare I say it) even moderate, voting decisions become difficult. Voting for anyone other than a serious conservative means one has voted in HSUS driven policies. This is yet another fine example. I find myself choosing infavor of someone who is opposed to the animal rights agenda and will protect my right to own animals. This is just another fine example.

"Aunt Gerty" Phumphrey
# Meaghan M 2014-01-07 12:17
Ellen, you are obviosly an informed voter. Most people I talk to don't seem to understand that the liberals and most moderates agree with the HSUS agenda. I realised just how true that was when I started e-mailing politicians regarding keeping the fox pens open.
# nina schug 2014-01-07 14:53
The MFHA should not have it's meetings in New York City. The Sunny South is nice that time of year.
Ladies, be sure to wear your Fox Fur coats,
wraps, etc. the next time you go to NYC.
Nina Schug
-2 # Penny House 2014-01-07 20:14
I would guess that none of you live in New York City. Not allowing horse and the carriages in NYC is great. It's about animal rights in the best way. The lives these horses live is horrible and cruel and not one that anyone who cares about horses would advocate. I am definitely a liberal but I am also a fox hunter and horse lover. New York City is NOT suitable for horses any longer. Yes, sure, it lovely to hear the sound of horses in middle of NY, but it is sickening to hear when you know how they are treated and how they live. If you actually care about the animals instead of some abstract political idea that has no relation to reality, you would be applauding de Blasio.
+3 # Gretchen Pelham 2014-01-07 20:26
My question is: if horses are not being treated well in NYC, why can't their conditions be improved by the city's code? Horses can be mistreated anywhere, but it is not permitted in most places. NYC has building codes; why not a code of acceptable care for these horses and a person on the city's payroll to assure their well-being? Seems to me it wouldn't be that expensive and it would maintain a romantic and much-loved tradition form many visitors.
# Shelley Payne 2014-06-06 00:50
If NYC is so toxic, then certainly it is inhumane to have dogs and other pets there. How cruel to submit them to that sort of life. And what about the poor children who must live there as well, lets get the child welfare advocates motivated to remove all the children from this polluted metropolis. Sorry Penny, but I hope my sarcasm is coming through loud and clear...the horses are well regulated and overseen by veterinarians. And if they aren't the answer is to make sure they are well taken care of not getting rid of them and letting the animal rights folks push forward on their agenda.
-1 # Penny House 2014-01-07 22:04
Yes, that could theoretically happen, but it obviously won't. Most people know nothing about horses, do not understand and don't care. And, look, even all these fox hunters know nothing about the lives of carriage horses and just want to blither on and on about liberals, as if politics in fact has anything whatsoever to do with animals. Talking about a romantic tradition is all very well but who is paying the price for it? The horses.
+2 # Gretchen Pelham 2014-01-09 10:47
If it can “theoretically happen,” it can be made to happen. The Philadelphia city administration is forming a group to study horse care and stable management because that city intends to keep its horse carriages. The only question remaining is, with proper oversight, are we opposed to having horses do a day’s work? If so, we are sliding dangerously close to the animal rights agenda of not using animals for anything. Where do we go from here? No more racing, steeplechasing, horse shows, foxhunting?
# Meaghan M 2014-01-09 12:27
Well put Norman.
-1 # Penny House 2014-01-09 14:16
Actually, not well said at all. Life in Manhattan, filled with more cars, trucks, buses than ever, pollution, noise, immense congestion is no place for horses. It is ridiculous to say the caring about the quality of the horses' life in NYC is only a small jump to eliminating racing and fox hunting.
# Steve Price 2014-01-10 13:53
A relevant website:
# Steve Price 2014-01-13 09:56
And a relevant interview with a carriage horses spokesman:http: //abclocal.go.c om/wabc/video?i d=9390541
+1 # Meaghan M 2014-01-14 19:37
Steve Price, I couldn't find the savenychorsecar raiges website. Is that the right link? It isn't a massive jump between regulating or outlawing foxhunting and showing horses. I mean our horses work in extreme heat, humidity, cold, rain, snow, wind, etc. The judge doesn't stop a show cause it is 90 degrees and the humidity is so thick you can swim through it. If we are lucky the judge excuses jackets. And as foxhunters, there isn't much we don't ride in. And yet our horses are fine. They aclimate and adjust. Carriage horses are trained for what they do. The fumes are the same as the people breath in. And a lot of my family is in NYC so I have spent a good mount of time around these horses. I'm not saying that we couldn't have regulations saying that they have to spend so many months outside the city, so they have time off to be a horse. NYC could find ways to keep their carraige horses if they wanted to.
+1 # Meaghan M 2014-01-14 19:41
I'm sure the over 300 drivers wouldn't mind more regulations if it meant they got to keep their jobs, despite that they are already under several regulations and they have to submit to stable inspections. And what are we going to do about the horses who no longer have a job? Rescues around the country are already overburdened.

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